Compare Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice Chronicles vs Saros

P1 Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice Chronicles
P2 Saros

Comparison Takeaways

Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice Chronicles

Where It Has the Edge

  • originality is 4.8 vs 3.3. Originality remains evident in mechanics reviewers describe as genre-pioneering and still distinctive decades later.
  • emotional impact is 4.8 vs 3.4. The story lands emotionally for several reviewers, who describe moving scenes, grief, urgency, and renewed impact from voiced...
  • skill tree depth is 4.7 vs 3.5. The job and class systems are repeatedly called deep, flexible, and rewarding, with clearer trees and many viable...
  • writing quality is 4.8 vs 3.7. Writing is praised as intelligent, memorable, and thematically rich, though its heightened style may not suit every reader.

Saros

Where It Has the Edge

  • visual effects quality is 4.7 vs 3.7. Visual effects are a standout, especially the bespoke particle systems, combat fireworks, and PS5 Pro presentation.
  • content variety is 4.4 vs 3.4. Content variety is positive around weapons, variants, power weapons, bosses, and combat options, though evidence is concentrated in...
  • camera behavior is 4.3 vs 3.5. Camera behavior is positive in limited evidence, with fast rotation that avoids disorientation.
  • learning curve is 4.4 vs 3.6. The learning curve is considered fair because the game teaches through color-coded attacks, trial, error, and repeated mastery.
Average score
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.3
Product 2: Saros
4.3
accessibility options
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.4

Accessibility improves through easier difficulty settings, autosaves, speed-up options, tutorials, voice acting, and story-recap tools.

Product 2: Saros
4.5

Accessibility evidence is strong for difficulty modifiers, attack recoloring, control remapping, HUD options, and challenge customization.

AI behavior
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.2

Enemy AI receives some praise for smarter reactions and difficulty-mode behavior, though the topic appears in fewer reviews.

Product 2: Saros
No score yet
aiming precision
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
No score yet
Product 2: Saros
4.3

Aiming is helped by generous tracking and auto-aim options, while some weapons demand more precision; reviewers generally find the system supportive without removing challenge.

animation quality
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.0

Animation quality is lightly discussed; facial and dialogue-box animation adds presentation but is not a dominant praise point.

Product 2: Saros
3.2

Animation quality has a notable caveat, with stiff character animation outside cutscenes called out despite strong overall presentation.

art direction
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.8

The remaster preserves the original's art direction while gently cleaning up and enhancing the look.

Product 2: Saros
4.7

Art direction stands out through marble, statues, alien architecture, and disturbing visual motifs.

atmosphere
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.5

The atmosphere is grim, serious, political, and urgent, matching the story's class conflict and moral stakes.

Product 2: Saros
4.7

Atmosphere is a standout, with reviewers describing dread, nightmares, unease, and an entrancing alien mood.

boss design
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.0

Boss design is notable for punishing encounters that can wall players until they understand their builds and tactics.

Product 2: Saros
4.5

Boss design is a major strength, with reviewers calling bosses memorable, challenging, spectacular, and often the highlight of the experience.

bug frequency
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.8

Technical stability appears strong in the one review that explicitly reported no issues.

Product 2: Saros
No score yet
camera behavior
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
3.5

Camera behavior is mixed: new tactical or overhead views help, but reviewers still report blocked angles, tight-space struggles, or awkward panning.

Product 2: Saros
4.3

Camera behavior is positive in limited evidence, with fast rotation that avoids disorientation.

character development
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.8

Ramza's growth and moral struggle are highlighted as a compelling arc that strengthens the political story.

Product 2: Saros
4.3

Character development centers on Arjun and is generally compelling, though one reviewer frames him as flawed and difficult to like.

character roster
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.2

The roster is broad, with reviews noting large armies, recruitable characters, optional characters, and missing War of the Lions additions.

Product 2: Saros
4.2

The character roster is larger than Returnal’s and includes a wider crew, though reviewers differ on how much depth that cast receives.

checkpoint system
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.5

Checkpointing and retry options reduce old frustration by letting players retry stages or back out to the world map.

Product 2: Saros
4.7

The checkpoint system is praised through teleportation shortcuts back to base after bosses.

class balance
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.3

Class balance is improved through job rebalancing and team-building flexibility, though the game remains intentionally breakable.

Product 2: Saros
No score yet
combat system
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.7

Combat is consistently praised as deep, tactical, and durable, with grids, terrain, turn order, and team composition still driving satisfying battles.

Product 2: Saros
4.8

Combat is the strongest point: reviewers repeatedly call the shooting, shield use, projectile reading, and boss battles thrilling, tactile, and finely tuned.

companion AI
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
2.2

Companion AI is a concern in one review, with guest characters sometimes acting passively or ineffectively.

Product 2: Saros
No score yet
content variety
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
3.4

Content variety is mixed: reviewers praise maps, sound novels, and core campaign depth, but repeatedly fault missing War of the Lions additions.

Product 2: Saros
4.4

Content variety is positive around weapons, variants, power weapons, bosses, and combat options, though evidence is concentrated in a few reviews.

controls responsiveness
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.4

Modern controls reduce friction through improved control balance, movement undo, fast-forwarding, and clearer pre-battle interaction.

Product 2: Saros
4.8

Controls are widely praised as precise, responsive, and fluid, with reviewers highlighting reliable jumping, dashing, shooting, and defensive timing.

core gameplay loop
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.8

The core loop is praised as challenging and rewarding, driven by tactical battles, job growth, and repeated experimentation.

Product 2: Saros
4.5

The core loop of repeated runs, permanent growth, and high-intensity combat is described as compelling, satisfying, and more approachable than Returnal, with some repetition noted.

dialogue quality
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.7

Dialogue benefits from rewritten and expanded scenes, with extra battle dialogue and smoother flow helping the drama land.

Product 2: Saros
3.8

Dialogue quality is uneven, with useful crew conversations but some optional dialogue or hub exchanges feeling stiff or unnatural.

difficulty balance
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.0

Difficulty is intentionally demanding; new modes help, but reviewers still note hard spikes and meaningful challenge.

Product 2: Saros
4.3

Difficulty balance is broadly positive, with tough-but-fair combat and modifiers for tailoring challenge, though one review argues the systems can overcorrect.

economy and resource balance
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
No score yet
Product 2: Saros
4.3

Resource balance is supported by Lucenite pickup pressure and upgrade spending, with one review praising how drops keep players engaged in combat.

emotional impact
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.8

The story lands emotionally for several reviewers, who describe moving scenes, grief, urgency, and renewed impact from voiced performances.

Product 2: Saros
3.4

Emotional impact is limited and mixed, with some reviewers appreciating the premise but not feeling fully invested in the cast.

endgame content
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
3.5

Endgame content is demanding and niche; one reviewer liked the harder encounters but found hidden exits chore-like.

Product 2: Saros
3.3

Endgame content is a limitation, with one reviewer wanting a dedicated post-game activity after the story wraps.

enemy variety
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
No score yet
Product 2: Saros
4.6

Enemy variety is praised for impressive combinations, late-game escalation, alien creature design, and visually distinct foes.

environmental detail
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.5

Environmental detail benefits from new textures and cleaner surfaces that make maps feel richer without a full reinvention.

Product 2: Saros
4.5

Environmental detail is praised through gothic architecture, desolate biomes, underground machinery, and striking alien spaces.

exploration quality
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.2

Exploration is limited but supported through a world map with towns, dungeons, sidequests, and optional encounters.

Product 2: Saros
4.5

Exploration is rewarded through hidden paths, side spaces, traversal unlocks, and reasons to revisit earlier regions.

facial animations
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
2.5

Facial animation is a minor weak point, with one reviewer calling attention to awkward moving mouths.

Product 2: Saros
3.1

Facial animations are a weakness in some in-game conversations, where models fail to match the emotional voice performances.

faithfulness to franchise
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.8

The remaster is faithful to the core experience, preserving what earlier versions made memorable while adding modern conveniences.

Product 2: Saros
4.7

Faithfulness to franchise is strong for Housemarque/Returnal fans, with Saros treated as a confident spiritual successor.

fast travel convenience
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.5

Travel convenience improves because random battles can be declined, skipped, fled from, or triggered intentionally.

Product 2: Saros
4.7

Fast travel is a major quality-of-life win, letting players return to unlocked biomes and reduce repeated early-game runs.

frame rate stability
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.7

Frame rate impressions are positive, especially versus older versions, with no notable slowdown reported in scored reviews.

Product 2: Saros
4.7

Frame rate stability is very strong, with many reviewers citing near-locked or rock-solid 60fps performance.

fun factor
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.7

Fun factor is high, with reviewers describing the battles as addictive, compelling, and still exciting even decades later.

Product 2: Saros
4.9

Fun factor is extremely high, with reviewers calling play joyful, flow-state inducing, and exciting even after failures.

gameplay mechanics
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.8

Reviewers highlight flexible unit builds and creative systems that let players combine jobs, skills, and tactics in expressive ways.

Product 2: Saros
4.6

Reviewers praise the shield, eclipse, dash, grapple, and parry mechanics for giving Saros a layered bullet-hell foundation, even when some systems feel familiar.

graphics quality
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.0

Graphics are generally appreciated for cleaner HD presentation, though some reviewers dislike smoothed sprites, textures, or filters.

Product 2: Saros
4.7

Graphics quality is consistently strong across reviews, with praise for image quality, landscapes, UE5 visuals, and overall presentation.

grind level
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
3.4

Grinding is a repeated tradeoff: many reviewers enjoy or appreciate faster grinding, while others still call it required or tedious.

Product 2: Saros
3.1

Grind level is a concern in one review, which describes repeated 20-to-30-minute boss attempts as tedious.

handheld play suitability
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
5.0

Handheld play is strongly praised on Steam Deck, where the game is described as a natural portable fit.

Product 2: Saros
4.4

Handheld play evidence is limited but positive, with one reviewer saying the game played beautifully on PlayStation Portal.

haptic feedback integration
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
No score yet
Product 2: Saros
4.7

Haptic feedback is a major strength, with reviewers repeatedly praising DualSense triggers, tactile feedback, and weapon feel.

horror tension
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
No score yet
Product 2: Saros
4.6

Horror tension is strong, built more on cosmic dread, fear of the unknown, and psychological unease than cheap scares.

HUD clarity
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.6

HUD clarity is a major improvement, especially visible turn order, combat timelines, health bars, and predicted outcomes.

Product 2: Saros
3.6

HUD clarity is mildly positive because high-level equipment information is visible, though broader HUD evidence is limited.

immersion
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
No score yet
Product 2: Saros
4.2

Immersion is supported by eerie atmosphere, audiovisual spectacle, and the sense of Carcosa bleeding out of the screen.

innovation
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.8

Innovation is credited historically, with reviewers framing the original as foundational for tactical RPGs.

Product 2: Saros
4.4

Innovation is positive but limited, mainly around evolving Returnal’s formula through shield, eclipse, and run-structure changes.

learning curve
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
3.6

The learning curve remains real, especially for newcomers, but reviewers say the systems become rewarding once learned through play.

Product 2: Saros
4.4

The learning curve is considered fair because the game teaches through color-coded attacks, trial, error, and repeated mastery.

level design
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.7

Battle maps earn praise for imaginative layouts, verticality, and tactical positioning, though dense spaces can expose camera limits.

Product 2: Saros
4.5

Level design is praised for handcrafted chunks, strong arenas, biome structure, and exploration routes, though one review notes some repeated room cadence.

load times
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
No score yet
Product 2: Saros
4.9

Load times receive limited but excellent evidence, with one technical review calling them close to instant.

loot system
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.2

Loot is supported by battlefield rewards such as treasure chests, crystals, items, job abilities, and rare equipment.

Product 2: Saros
3.7

Loot is mixed: artifacts create risk-reward choices, but some reviewers found artifact availability or tradeoffs less consistently satisfying.

lore depth
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.5

Lore tools such as State of the Realm and Chronicle features help players track Ivalice's dense politics, history, terminology, and side stories.

Product 2: Saros
4.6

Lore depth is supported by hidden paths, logs, and interpretive horror details that encourage players to uncover Carcosa’s secrets.

map and navigation design
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.4

World-map and navigation changes are praised for clearer shop checks, optional encounters, and a more useful map presentation.

Product 2: Saros
3.6

Map and navigation are mixed, with clear minimap markers in one review but late-game destination guidance criticized in another.

menu usability
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
3.4

Menu usability improves in many places, but some reviewers still call certain menus clunky or hard to read.

Product 2: Saros
3.4

Menu usability is adequate but imperfect, with one reviewer noting unclear equipment-screen navigation.

mission design
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.2

Mission objectives add structure beyond basic fights, including protection targets and specific enemy takedowns that force tactical adaptation.

Product 2: Saros
No score yet
mission variety
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.2

Mission variety comes from objectives beyond clearing enemies, including VIP protection and targeted enemy defeat.

Product 2: Saros
No score yet
movement feel
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.5

Movement feels more forgiving because the remaster lets players reset mistaken moves before committing a turn.

Product 2: Saros
4.6

Movement feels smooth and empowering, letting players dash, jump, evade, and reposition through dense projectile patterns with strong flow.

multiplayer design
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
1.8

Multiplayer design is a weakness because reviewers note that War of the Lions multiplayer modes are omitted here.

Product 2: Saros
No score yet
narrative quality
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.7

Narrative quality is the strongest consensus point, with reviewers praising the political drama, moral complexity, and lasting relevance.

Product 2: Saros
4.1

Narrative quality is divisive: many reviewers enjoy the mystery and character study, while others find the story underdeveloped, opaque, or less effective than Returnal.

onboarding experience
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
No score yet
Product 2: Saros
4.3

Onboarding is approachable for a demanding roguelite, with reviewers noting quick mechanical learning and early hands-on comfort.

originality
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.8

Originality remains evident in mechanics reviewers describe as genre-pioneering and still distinctive decades later.

Product 2: Saros
3.3

Originality is mixed, with one reviewer saying it feels like a familiar Returnal retread despite refinements.

pacing
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
3.2

Pacing improves through speed-up options, but some reviewers still miss a true skip option for repeated cutscenes.

Product 2: Saros
3.9

Pacing is mixed: shorter runs and 30-minute chunks are appreciated, but some reviewers cite repetition or long stretches before another boss attempt.

performance optimization
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.8

Performance is strong across tested platforms, with reviewers reporting smooth play, few issues, and especially good Steam Deck behavior.

Product 2: Saros
4.5

Performance optimization is strong overall, especially on PS5 Pro and base PS5, though occasional dips are reported.

platform-specific feature support
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.5

Platform support is favorable, with broad release coverage plus cloud saves and controller support noted in reviews.

Product 2: Saros
4.8

Platform-specific support is strong on PS5 Pro, where the technical review says the game truly excels.

platforming precision
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
No score yet
Product 2: Saros
4.4

The parry timing and platforming-adjacent precision receive positive but limited evidence, mainly around timing red attacks and execution windows.

polish
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.4

Polish is strong overall, with reviewers praising thoughtful improvements that modernize the game without erasing its identity.

Product 2: Saros
4.2

Polish is generally positive, especially around the tight overall package, but some balance and communication issues remain.

progression system
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.8

Progression remains a major strength because job points, ability mixing, and build experimentation create constant short-term goals.

Product 2: Saros
4.5

Progression is one of the clearest strengths, with permanent upgrades, the Armor Matrix, and repeat-run growth making failure feel productive.

protagonist appeal
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.8

Ramza is praised as an appealing lead because his idealism, nobility, and moral conflict make him compelling.

Product 2: Saros
4.1

Protagonist appeal is mixed-positive: Arjun is layered and compelling for some, while another review finds him unpleasant when viewed closely.

puzzle design
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
No score yet
Product 2: Saros
4.0

Puzzle evidence is light but positive, covering combat-puzzle encounters and occasional environmental switch puzzles rather than deep puzzle systems.

quest design
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.2

Quest design benefits from clearer markers for previously obscure late-game side quest chains.

Product 2: Saros
No score yet
remake/remaster quality
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.5

Remaster quality is broadly praised as respectful and often the best version, but not fully definitive because notable prior content is absent.

Product 2: Saros
No score yet
replay value
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.7

Replay value is high thanks to flexible jobs, alternate builds, side content, and reviewers wanting to revisit or continue after credits.

Product 2: Saros
4.6

Replay value is high, with reviewers wanting to return after credits, start fresh saves, or keep chasing better runs.

sandbox freedom
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
No score yet
Product 2: Saros
4.3

Saros offers some combat sandbox freedom through arena layouts, playstyle choice, and flexible approaches rather than a true open sandbox.

save system reliability
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.7

Save and retry improvements reduce old soft-lock risks through autosaves, retreat options, retries, and world-map fallback.

Product 2: Saros
4.6

Save-system convenience is positive thanks to suspending runs and leaving/picking up later.

side character depth
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
3.6

Side character depth improves through new conversations, but some reviewers still wanted more party interaction after recruitment.

Product 2: Saros
2.8

Side character depth is a weakness, with supporting characters often reduced to descent-into-madness arcs rather than fully developed roles.

skill tree depth
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.7

The job and class systems are repeatedly called deep, flexible, and rewarding, with clearer trees and many viable builds.

Product 2: Saros
3.5

Skill-tree depth is mixed; reviewers value meaningful stat growth but several say the tree is simple, incremental, or lacks buildcrafting depth.

sound design
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.2

Sound design receives light but positive notice for cleaned-up effects and small audio adjustments.

Product 2: Saros
4.7

Sound design and 3D audio are repeatedly praised for making combat, projectiles, and the world feel intense and immersive.

soundtrack quality
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.3

The soundtrack remains highly regarded, though some reviewers wanted a rearranged or orchestral option.

Product 2: Saros
4.7

The soundtrack is highly praised for oppressive, drone-metal, sci-fi horror, and atmospheric qualities.

tutorial quality
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
3.9

Tutorial support is improved for newcomers, though a few reviewers still wanted clearer explanations for jobs and early party balance.

Product 2: Saros
4.4

Tutorial quality is supported through enemies teaching boss patterns and mechanics being learned quickly through trial and error.

upgrade system
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.8

The upgrade system is closely tied to job points and class development, keeping character growth central to play.

Product 2: Saros
4.6

The upgrade system is praised for stat buffs, weapon improvements, resource spending, and permanent growth that makes players stronger over time.

user interface design
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.5

The interface is widely praised for surfacing information, modernizing menus, and making tactical decisions easier to read.

Product 2: Saros
3.5

User interface design is serviceable rather than standout, with one review calling the UI good enough.

value for money
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
3.8

Value is generally positive for fans and newcomers, though one reviewer questions the price given missing enhancements or content.

Product 2: Saros
4.5

Value for money has limited but positive support from one reviewer who would pay full MSRP.

visual effects quality
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
3.7

Visual effects are mixed: new particles help attacks, but some summons are described as washed out or abridged.

Product 2: Saros
4.7

Visual effects are a standout, especially the bespoke particle systems, combat fireworks, and PS5 Pro presentation.

voice acting
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.6

Voice acting is one of the most praised additions, often described as elevating scenes, characters, and accessibility.

Product 2: Saros
4.6

Voice acting is strongly praised, especially Rahul Kohli’s lead performance, with several reviews also commending the broader cast.

weapon balance
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
No score yet
Product 2: Saros
4.0

Weapon balance is mostly positive because many weapons feel viable, but shotguns and no-autohit variants draw criticism.

world-building
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.4

World-building is praised for its politics, religion, class conflict, historical framing, and sense of a lived-in Ivalice.

Product 2: Saros
4.7

World-building is praised for Carcosa, Soltari, cosmic horror, and layered environmental storytelling.

world interactivity
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
No score yet
Product 2: Saros
4.4

World interactivity centers on eclipses transforming biomes, hazards, and enemy behavior, making the planet feel reactive during runs.

writing quality
Product 1: Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice...
4.8

Writing is praised as intelligent, memorable, and thematically rich, though its heightened style may not suit every reader.

Product 2: Saros
3.7

Writing quality is mixed; data logs and media-literacy-friendly storytelling get praise, while repetitive references and silence between beats draw criticism.