Average score
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
4.0
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
4.1
Accessories and Tools
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
4.2
Across reviews, the included tool set is a major strength (crevice, dusting/upholstery, pet tools, and sometimes straight‑suction nozzles), though a few variants ship with a slimmer bundle.
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
4.5
Reviews highlight a useful set of included tools (multi-surface LED floorhead, crevice/brush tools, and a mini motorized brush in many kits) that cover floors, furniture, and tight spots; attachment variety is a recurring plus.
Aesthetic design and finish
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
4.2
Design is generally seen as clean and functional (often white/red or maroon styling) with clear plastics and practical layout, even if some call it slightly dated.
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
4.7
Design is repeatedly praised as sleek, minimalist, and premium-looking (often white with gold accents); one review notes color choice may be limiting if you dislike white.
AI, Smart, App and Automation
P1Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
No score yet
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
1.5
Reviews note there are no smart/app features—this is a straightforward, manual cordless stick without automation or connectivity.
Airflow blowback
P1Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
No score yet
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
4.5
Hard-floor scattering/blowback appears well controlled in most accounts, with reviewers often noting little debris spray-back when picking up mixed messes.
Area Rug Handling
P1Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
No score yet
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
3.6
Area-rug handling is good overall, but strong suction can lift lighter rugs and long fringes/tassels may tangle; adjustable openings/flaps and technique help mitigate this.
Assembly and Setup
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
4.7
Assembly is typically quick with keyed connections and no tools required; most parts snap into place in minutes.
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
4.6
Assembly/setup is commonly described as fast and beginner-friendly, with parts snapping together and minimal fiddling before the first clean.
Automatic shutoff for obstructions
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
4.5
Brushroll jam protection is mentioned in several reviews (indicator lights and/or automatic shutdown) to help prevent overheating when the brush is obstructed.
P2Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
No score yetBattery and Charging
P1Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
No score yet
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
4.2
Battery performance is usually strong in Eco/low with roughly an hour of runtime; charging commonly takes ~3.5–4 hours. Several reviews highlight a swappable battery, though one source suggests removability may vary by version.
Bin and Bag
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
4.0
Bin size varies widely by model (from sub‑quart to ~3L class), but most note easy access; smaller bins require more frequent emptying during whole‑home cleans.
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
3.8
The bagless bin is often described as compact (around 0.6L), meaning more frequent emptying for big homes, but some reviewers still find the capacity reasonable for a stick vac.
Build quality and durability
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
3.9
Build quality is often described as solid and durable, but a few reviews report average fit/finish or concerns about switch/motor longevity on certain newer versions.
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
4.3
Build quality is often described as sturdy for the money, mixing plastics with metal parts; a couple reviewers note some plastic components can feel less premium.
Carpet — High-Pile Pickup
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
2.5
High‑pile/shag is a common weak spot: multiple reviews cite trouble with large debris sitting above the nozzle and reduced pickup compared with low/medium pile.
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
3.8
High/thicker carpet cleaning is described as capable, but a few tests show small debris/dust can get caught in carpet tassels/fringes and may need follow-up.
Carpet — Low-Pile Pickup
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
4.2
Low‑pile carpet pickup is generally very good, often near the top of class, though a few tests show inconsistency with very fine particles that can take extra passes.
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
4.1
Low-pile/short carpet cleaning is generally rated very good, though some note heavier messes or carpet tassels may require extra passes.
Carpet — Medium-Pile Pickup
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
4.2
Deep‑clean performance on medium pile is consistently strong in lab-style tests, often scoring in the mid‑90s range for embedded debris pickup.
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
4.9
In medium-pile style deep-clean demonstrations (e.g., embedded-debris tests), the vacuum performs exceptionally well, achieving near-perfect pickup in reviewer testing.
Clogging and debris prevention
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
3.5
Clogging/roller stalls can happen (particularly with DuoClean front rollers or hair clumping), but access doors and removable rollers make clearing possible if you stay on maintenance.
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
4.5
Anti-tangle brush geometry and debris channel design are credited with reducing clogs, even when picking up lots of hair, crumbs, and mixed household debris.
Comparative performance
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
4.2
In head-to-head comparisons, Rotators often trail the priciest Dysons in some tests but stay competitive overall, with versatility and price frequently tipping the scales.
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
4.4
Many reviewers compare performance favorably to competitors like Dyson V8 and other budget sticks, emphasizing performance-per-dollar; Pro/R20 comparisons show the R10 trades premium features (display/soft roller/longer runtime) for lower cost.
Controls and UI
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
4.3
Controls are usually intuitive (floor-type switches, brushroll toggles, and suction sliders), with minor complaints like always‑on lights or awkward hose release ergonomics.
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
4.0
Controls are generally viewed as simple and effective (trigger, lock, three power levels), but multiple reviewers wish for an LCD/screen or more status feedback.
Convertible handheld design
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
4.1
Lift‑Away/convertible pod designs are widely praised for portability and above-floor cleaning; tradeoffs include carrying weight and whether the floorhead remains powered when detached (model dependent).
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
4.6
Multiple reviews emphasize how easily it converts into a handheld for couches, cushions, car interiors, and quick spot cleaning.
Cord length
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
3.7
Cord length depends on the variant: many have a helpful 30‑ft cord, while some ADV versions use a shorter 25‑ft cord that can force outlet changes.
P2Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
No score yetCordless convenience
P1Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
No score yet
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
4.5
Cordless convenience is a major benefit—reviewers like the grab-and-go feel and not being constrained by outlets or cords.
Cord management
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
3.6
Cord management is basic (hook wraps, no retract), which works but feels less premium than retractable systems.
P2Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
No score yetCrevice / Groove Pickup (Hard Floors)
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
4.1
Crevice pickup ranges from perfect on some models to notably below average on others (especially where head airflow is much lower than hose airflow).
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
4.5
Crevice performance is highlighted as a strength with the included narrow tools, helping reach couch gaps, corners, and tight baseboard areas.
Dried-On Stain Removal
P1Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
No score yet
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
4.3
Most reviewers find it easy to maneuver around furniture and in tighter spaces thanks to its light build and wheeled floorhead, though a couple mention a top-heavy feel or a bulky head in some situations.
Ease of use
P1Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
No score yet
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
4.5
Ease of use is a consistent strength—reviewers describe it as ergonomic, intuitive, and easy to maneuver for quick, frequent cleaning sessions.
Edge and Baseboard Cleaning (Hard Floors)
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
4.7
Edge/baseboard pickup is frequently strong, with multiple tests reporting near‑complete debris removal along walls.
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
4.3
Edge/baseboard cleaning is helped by the tool set and (on some heads) a front opening/adjustment, with reviewers reporting good results along walls and corners.
Emptying and Mess Control
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
4.4
Emptying is typically straightforward with bottom‑dump bins and occasional top access for clogs; a few reviews note the usual bagless ‘dust puff’ when dumping.
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
4.2
Emptying is usually easy via a one-press dump, but a few reviewers mention debris can eject quickly (or miss the bin) if you don’t position it carefully.
Filtration / Dust Containment
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
4.8
Repeatedly praised: sealed systems plus HEPA-style filtration are reported to contain dust well and pass fog/smoke-style tests in multiple reviews.
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
4.3
The multi-stage filtration system is frequently credited with trapping fine dust (often quoted as ~99.9%), though at least one source notes a washable but non-HEPA filter on certain variants.
Floorhead design
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
4.2
Floorhead design varies: DuoClean/PowerFins heads boost mixed-debris and hard-floor performance, but at least one long review argues the fin/roller layout can reduce carpet agitation and trap debris under the front roller.
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
4.0
The floorhead earns praise for LED lighting, wheels, and multi-surface capability, but some reviewers find the main head bulky, especially when trying to reach far under low furniture.
Floorhead Seal on Hard Floors
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
4.8
Soft-roller (DuoClean) designs are often described as sealing well to hard floors, improving fine-dust pickup and reducing scatter.
P2Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
No score yetHair-removal channel issues
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
2.8
Some users report hair and debris collecting near the bin/hose junction, creating localized clogs that need occasional clearing even if the brushroll stays tangle-free.
P2Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
No score yetHair Pickup — Carpets
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
4.7
Carpet hair pickup is consistently strong for both pet and human hair, and pet tools often remove embedded fur from upholstery and carpeted stairs.
P2Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
No score yetHair Pickup — Hard Floors
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
2.9
Hard-floor hair pickup can be hit-or-miss: some models struggle with brushroll off, but performance improves with specialized hard-floor tools or using the wand/attachments.
P2Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
No score yetHair‑Wrap / Tangle Resistance
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
4.2
Hair-wrap resistance is excellent on newer anti‑tangle/self‑cleaning brushrolls, but older designs may still wrap long hair and require manual cutting.
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
4.6
Hair-wrap resistance is a standout: many reviewers report little to no tangling thanks to V-shaped bristles/comb teeth, though long carpet fringes can still wrap.
Hard Floor — Fine Dust Pickup
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
4.4
Fine-dust pickup on hard floors is usually excellent—especially with DuoClean/soft rollers—while traditional heads may miss ultra-fine crumbs unless you use the wand/straight-suction nozzle.
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
4.5
Multiple reviews call out its ability to capture very fine dust (the ‘powdered’ stuff you can see in the bin) and allergens, especially when paired with the multi-stage filter.
Hard Floor — Large Debris Intake
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
3.8
Large debris pickup on hard floors is mixed: DuoClean heads and straight-suction nozzles can perform very well, but some models push around tall pieces like cereal/Cheerios unless you switch to the wand.
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
4.5
On hard floors, reviewers report strong pickup of larger debris like crumbs, oatmeal, kitty litter, and tracked-in dirt, with minimal scattering in typical use.
Headlight and LED lights
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
4.3
LED headlights are common and range from ‘okay’ to very bright banks of lights, helping visibility under furniture and along edges.
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
4.4
The LED headlight system is widely praised for revealing dust in dark areas (under couches, corners) and improving cleaning confidence at night or in shaded rooms.
Hose length
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
4.3
Hose reach is a standout on certain variants (up to ~12 ft), but other models feel shorter in practice and can contribute to tip‑overs during above-floor cleaning.
P2Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
No score yetLow-profile design
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
4.2
Low-profile heads help reach under many couches and beds, though not every piece of furniture is accessible depending on clearance and model geometry.
P2Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
No score yetMaintenance requirements
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
3.6
Maintenance is moderate: washable filters and anti‑tangle rollers help, but DuoClean front rollers and brushrolls can need periodic cleaning to prevent stalls and maintain suction.
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
4.3
Maintenance is described as straightforward with washable filters/dust cup and easy disassembly; expect some fine dust buildup in covers/channels and allow drying time after rinsing parts.
Maneuverability and Handling
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
4.0
Swivel steering is generally liked, but handling can range from smooth and responsive to stiff or tip‑prone in wand mode; some models also exhibit strong forward ‘pull’ on carpet.
P2Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
No score yetNoise level
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
3.5
Noise is typically described as average to loud for a corded upright (often around the high‑70s to ~80 dB), with some models sounding higher‑pitched on carpet.
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
3.3
Noise feedback is mixed: some call it acceptable indoors, but multiple reviews note peaks around ~90dB (and higher on Turbo) plus a sharp/annoying sound character.
Odor control
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
3.8
Odor-neutralizing cartridges can add a pleasant scent, but at least one review reports the fragrance fading much sooner than advertised.
P2Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
No score yetOnboard tool storage
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
3.5
Onboard tool storage varies: some models store only a couple of tools, while others include caddies; limited onboard slots are a frequent complaint.
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
2.4
A recurring complaint is storage for accessories: wall mounts often hold the vacuum but not the attachments, so tools may need separate storage.
Ongoing ownership costs (bags, filters, batteries)
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
4.3
Ongoing costs are generally low for a corded, bagless design—mostly periodic filter washing and occasional filter replacement (some reviews estimate costs in the teens per year).
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
3.3
Washable filters help keep recurring costs down, but multiple reviews warn that extra/replacement batteries can be pricey if you plan to extend runtime with spares.
Overall durability/longevity
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
2.0
Longevity perceptions are mixed: many call it sturdy, but a few warn that key assemblies (especially floorheads) may be costly or not fully covered by warranty.
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
4.2
A few reviews comment that suction and performance stay consistent with regular use, suggesting good longevity, though long-term durability data is limited.
Packaging quality
P1Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
No score yet
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
4.3
Packaging is generally reported as protective and well organized, with clear labeling and an easy-to-carry retail box.
Pet-Ready Features
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
4.6
Pet-focused features (pet power/turbo tools, anti‑tangle brushrolls, and sealed filtration) consistently earn high marks for homes with shedding pets.
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
4.6
Pet owners report strong hair pickup, with the brush design and attachments handling pet fur well across floors and upholstery.
Price and Value
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
4.3
Value is often a standout versus premium brands, but some newer variants are priced close to higher-tier Sharks (Vertex/Stratos), making the value proposition less clear.
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
4.4
Value is a headline theme: many reviews frame it as a standout under-$200 (often closer to ~$150 on sale) cordless stick with performance that rivals pricier brands; pricing varies by region and by R10 vs R10 Pro.
Runtime
P1Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
No score yet
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
4.4
Eco/low runtime is commonly around ~59–65 minutes in reviewer claims/tests, which is strong for this price tier and suits smaller homes. Turbo/Max runtime is a clear compromise: multiple reviews note it drops dramatically (often single-digit minutes on the R10, and higher-but-still-short on some Pro tests).
Self-propel feature
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
2.8
Brushroll ‘self‑pull’ behavior divides opinions—some find it helps forward movement on carpet, while others say it yanks too aggressively and makes pull‑back tiring.
P2Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
No score yetStair Cleaning
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
4.1
Stair cleaning is commonly cited as a Lift‑Away advantage, especially when paired with pet power tools and long hoses, though the carry/handling can feel awkward for some.
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
4.3
Handheld mode plus the wide/mini tools are frequently recommended for stairs, car seats, and other step-like surfaces, making stair cleaning straightforward.
Storage footprint and upright-stand stability
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
2.4
Stability is model-dependent: several reviewers mention tip‑overs when using the hose/wand, especially with higher-mounted hoses or strong pull-forward brushroll behavior.
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
3.4
Several reviewers say the vacuum doesn’t reliably stand upright and/or feels top-heavy, so wall storage is commonly recommended to keep it stable and ready to charge.
Suction and Airflow
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
4.3
Most reviews report strong suction and above‑average real‑world pickup; some variants show higher airflow at the hose than at the floorhead, which can reduce crevice performance on those units.
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
4.5
Suction is consistently described as strong for the price class (often cited at 120AW on the R10/R10 Pure), with above-average real-world pickup; lab-style carpet tests in the reviews reached top scores.
Suitability for heavy-duty use
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
4.7
Several reviewers consider the Rotator powerful enough for heavy-duty messes and deep carpet cleaning, especially in corded and powered-head variants.
P2Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
No score yetSuitability for small spaces
P1Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
No score yet
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
4.5
The vacuum is repeatedly recommended for apartments and smaller homes because it’s light, quick to deploy, and easy to store—especially when wall-mounted.
Support and Reliability
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
3.9
Warranty length is commonly 5 years, but reviewers note exclusions and part-coverage limitations; experiences range from satisfied to frustrated, especially around powerhead repairs.
P2Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
No score yetSurface safety with attachments
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
2.7
Surface safety is mixed: using brushrolls on delicate floors can risk scratching, and one review notes wand plastics that can scuff paint/furniture if you’re not careful.
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
2.8
One reviewer cautions that strong suction/tools can be rough on delicate electronics (like laptop keyboards), so care is advised on sensitive surfaces.
Tool-change simplicity
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
4.4
Most reviewers find the modular parts click together cleanly and attachments swap quickly; Lift‑Away conversions are usually simple once you learn the latches.
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
4.6
Most reviewers describe tool swaps as quick and intuitive—press, click, and go—making it easy to switch from floors to crevices or upholstery mid-clean.
Under-Furniture Pickup
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
4.2
Under‑furniture reach benefits from Lift‑Away and slimmer heads; powered Lift‑Away models are especially effective, while non‑powered versions may require more repositioning.
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
3.8
LEDs and crevice tools help with under-furniture cleaning, but multiple reviewers note the main head can be too bulky for very low-clearance furniture.
Upholstery / Above-Floor Pickup
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
4.7
Above-floor and upholstery cleaning is repeatedly highlighted as a strength when using the Lift‑Away pod and included upholstery/pet tools, especially for furniture and stairs.
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
4.4
Upholstery and above-floor cleaning is a frequent use case, with the mini motorized brush and handheld configuration performing well on couches, cushions, and other fabrics.
Versatility
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
4.8
Versatility is a consistent strength: upright cleaning plus Lift‑Away/pod modes and wand tools cover floors, stairs, upholstery, and hard-to-reach spots.
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
4.5
Across reviews, versatility is a strong point: it’s used on hard floors, carpets, rugs, upholstery, corners/baseboards, and even higher spots with the extension wand.
Weight
P1
Product 1: Shark Rotator Lift-Away Vacuum
3.7
Weight varies by model but is typically mid‑range for an upright; several reviewers find it manageable in-floor use but heavy when carrying the pod or doing above-floor work.
P2
Product 2: DREAME R10 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner
4.3
Weight is generally viewed as light and manageable (roughly ~3.5–3.6 lbs for the main unit), though the full assembled configuration can feel closer to ~6 lbs to some users.