Average score
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
4.2
Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
3.9
app ecosystem
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
3.7

The app ecosystem is useful but not expansive. Reviewers mention ConnectIQ apps and data fields, while also noting that Garmin’s ecosystem feels more limited than watchOS or Wear OS.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Garmin's broader software ecosystem is a positive, with Connect and Connect IQ giving the watch more depth than a barebones entry-level tracker.

band quality
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
4.5

Band quality is good, with soft silicone straps and positive comments about long-term wear and durability.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

The included band gets positive remarks for its slim silicone construction and everyday wearability.

battery life
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
3.2

Battery life is the biggest tradeoff. Some reviewers still found it good in normal use, but many say the brighter screen makes it noticeably weaker than the 265, especially with always-on display.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
3.9

Battery life is good for an AMOLED running watch and often lands near Garmin's claims, but it is not class-leading once heavy GPS use or always-on display enters the picture.

blood oxygen tracking
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
4.0

The watch includes blood-oxygen-related health sensing, with reviewers mentioning a pulse oximeter and overnight blood-oxygen or saturation tracking as part of the health stack.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
3.7

Pulse-ox support is present and useful for extra health data, but it is treated more as a nice add-on than a core reason to buy the watch.

Bluetooth connectivity
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
4.3

Bluetooth support is functional for phone-linked features and external sensor pairing, including Bluetooth and ANT+ accessory support.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.3

Bluetooth support is solid for headphones and sensor sharing, with reviewers reporting stable connections in normal use.

brightness
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
4.9

Brightness is a standout strength, with multiple reviews describing the screen as one of Garmin’s brightest and easiest to read outdoors.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

Screen brightness is strong enough to make the display look lively and readable instead of dim or washed out.

build quality
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
4.6

Build quality feels premium for the line, with one review explicitly describing it as a high-quality watch.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

Build quality is strong for the price, with reviewers calling Garmin's overall construction dependable.

button controls
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
4.7

Button controls are one of the watch’s practical strengths. Reviewers like the five-button layout and say it works reliably when touch is less convenient.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.4

The five-button layout is a real advantage for sweaty workouts and gloves, giving the watch dependable control beyond touch alone.

call handling
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
4.0

Call support is a useful upgrade rather than a must-have killer feature. Reviewers generally found wrist calls workable and clear enough when paired to a phone.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
1.5

Call features are limited because the watch lacks a microphone and speaker for taking calls directly from the wrist.

charging convenience
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
2.8

Charging convenience is less impressive. Reviewers specifically wanted wireless charging and also called out the proprietary cable setup.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
2.5

Charging is less convenient than USB-C-on-watch designs because Garmin still relies on its proprietary cable.

charging speed
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
4.5

Charging speed is fine in practice, with one long-term reviewer saying it can top up from empty to full during a shower.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Charging speed is a plus, with reviewers commonly seeing a full charge in about an hour.

coaching features
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
4.6

Coaching features are well developed, especially for runners and triathletes. Garmin Coach plans, daily suggestions, and structured guidance were consistently praised.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

Coaching is a major strength, with Garmin Coach, adaptive plans, and suggested workouts giving newer runners useful structure without much friction.

comfort
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
4.6

Comfort is a major plus. Across sizes and use cases, reviewers repeatedly say the watch is easy to wear for workouts, daily use, and even overnight.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

Comfort is a standout, with many reviewers saying the watch feels light, unobtrusive, and easy to wear all day and overnight.

companion app quality
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
4.0

Garmin Connect is usually viewed positively for depth and data richness, though the new subscription layer is a recurring annoyance in the reviews.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Garmin Connect is generally useful and improving, though some reviewers still find it a bit dense compared with simpler platforms.

contactless payments
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
4.3

NFC payments are available, giving the watch a useful everyday smartwatch feature beyond training tools.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Garmin Pay is a convenient inclusion and works well when supported by the user's bank, adding real day-to-day usefulness during runs and errands.

cross-platform compatibility
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
4.4

Cross-platform support looks good overall, with smooth iPhone use noted in one review and phone-assistant access highlighted in another.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

The watch works across phone platforms, though the notification experience can vary somewhat between iPhone and Android.

customization options
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
4.5

Customization is a strength. Reviews mention editable glance folders, assignable shortcuts, and flexible watch-face or data layout changes.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.3

Customization is a strong point, with editable widgets, data screens, watch faces, and settings that let users tune the experience to their preferences.

display quality
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
4.8

Display quality is excellent. Reviewers repeatedly call the AMOLED screen brighter, sharper, clearer, and more vivid than the previous generation.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

The AMOLED display is a headline feature, repeatedly praised for its sharpness, color, and premium feel at this price.

durability
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
4.6

Durability impressions are positive. Reviewers mention scratch resistance, pristine condition after use, and very little visible wear over time.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

Durability looks strong for normal training use, with reviewers calling the watch durable and noting it held up well over time.

ECG functionality
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
1.5

ECG is a clear miss. Reviewers repeatedly call out that the Forerunner 570 lacks ECG despite using Garmin’s newer sensor hardware.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
1.5

ECG is a clear omission; multiple reviewers note that shoppers who need ECG or EKG features should look at pricier Garmin models.

fit
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
4.8

Fit is excellent when sized correctly, with reviewers describing the watch as secure, flush on the wrist, and almost second-skin-like.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Fit is generally good across typical wrists, though the single-case-size approach will not suit everyone equally.

fitness tracking accuracy
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
4.7

Fitness tracking is broadly praised, with one review calling the core tracking accuracy second to none for the watch’s main sports focus.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

Core fitness tracking is described as accurate and dependable for day-to-day activity and general training use.

GPS accuracy
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
4.8

GPS accuracy is one of the strongest areas. Across city runs, trails, and side-by-side tests, reviews consistently describe tracking as excellent, flawless, or near flawless.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.3

GPS accuracy is one of the watch's standout strengths, with repeated praise for dependable routes and mileage even without dual-band GPS.

health tracking accuracy
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
4.3

Health stats are generally described as good, with one data-driven review calling overall stat accuracy solid and another saying heart-rate and sleep-stage tracking are pretty good.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

Reviewers describe the watch's sleep and workout insights as highly accurate and useful for everyday training decisions.

heart rate accuracy
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
4.6

Heart-rate tracking is a major strength. Multiple reviewers say it stays close to chest straps, performs well in intervals, and is one of Garmin’s better recent sensors.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.3

Heart-rate performance is generally strong, with several reviewers finding it reliable and in some cases close to chest-strap or higher-end watch readings.

materials quality
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
4.4

Material choices are a step up from older mid-range Forerunners, especially the aluminum bezel and sturdier-feeling case construction.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
3.7

Materials are more functional than luxurious, leaning on polymer and plastic to keep weight low, though the glass still feels durable.

menu navigation
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
4.6

Menu navigation is easy to learn and generally straightforward, helped by the refreshed layout and button-plus-touch design.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Menu navigation is flexible because the watch can be fully operated with buttons, touch, or a mix of both.

music controls
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
4.1

Music controls are present and usable, including the ability to check what is playing from services like Spotify.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
3.3

Music handling is functional but mixed: controls are handy once set up, yet several reviewers find Garmin's music experience clunky or not worth the premium.

onboard music storage
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
4.0

Onboard music storage is useful but not generous. Reviews note 8GB of storage and MP3 support, with some calling the capacity a bit stingy.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
3.7

Offline music support is helpful on the Music model and includes major services, but the extra cost and setup friction keep it from being an easy win.

operating system experience
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
4.6

The overall software experience is modern and capable. Reviewers describe it as faster, more polished, and close in feel to Garmin’s higher-end models.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

The watch OS feels familiar and practical, making common tasks like scrolling through menus and smart features straightforward.

outdoor visibility
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
4.9

Outdoor visibility is excellent, with reviewers saying the display remains easy to read in bright sunlight and other tough conditions.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

Outdoor visibility is excellent, with reviewers consistently able to read the screen in sunlight and other bright conditions.

pairing reliability
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
3.4

Pairing reliability is mixed. One reviewer found syncing smooth and seamless, while another reported repeated disconnect-and-reconnect behavior.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

Pairing reliability is strong for Bluetooth headphones in day-to-day use.

recovery insights
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
4.6

Recovery guidance is strong. Reviews highlight training readiness, recovery time, and daily summaries that help frame when to push and when to back off.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Recovery Time, Training Effect, and similar post-workout guidance are useful, but the watch still lacks deeper training-readiness and load tools from higher-end models.

reliability
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
4.7

General reliability is strong, with reviewers saying the watch can be relied on for training and that key controls remain responsive even after submersion.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

Overall reliability is strong, with reviewers repeatedly calling the watch dependable in daily use and training.

safety features
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
4.4

Safety coverage includes Garmin’s Incident Detection and LiveTrack features for activity sharing and emergency notifications.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
3.8

Safety features like emergency contacts, incident alerts, and phone-finding tools add meaningful utility beyond pure fitness tracking.

size options
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
4.1

Two case sizes broaden the fit range, and multiple reviewers specifically call out the benefit of having both 42mm and 47mm options.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
2.5

Only one size is offered, which simplifies the lineup but reduces fit choice for shoppers who prefer smaller or larger cases.

sleep tracking accuracy
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
3.7

Sleep tracking is useful but not flawless. Reviews say it is reasonably accurate and helpful for readiness, though some found it less robust than the best sleep-focused competitors.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
3.8

Sleep tracking is usually judged accurate enough for nightly timing and general recovery, though one reviewer found the sleep score too generous on a rough night.

smartphone notifications
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
3.5

Notifications work, but the experience is mixed. Some reviewers had smooth delivery, while others found text truncated or alerts too persistent on screen.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Phone notifications are easy to read and generally reliable, though they are basic smartwatch alerts rather than a full communications experience.

smartwatch features
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
4.3

Smartwatch features are improved meaningfully with the added speaker, microphone, voice tools, and day-to-day conveniences, even if the watch still prioritizes sport over general smartwatch depth.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
3.9

Smartwatch extras like notifications, payments, music on the Music model, and safety tools are useful, but the feature set is still secondary to fitness and training.

software smoothness
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
2.9

Software smoothness is generally strong, but not perfect. Some reviews call the experience polished, while others report crashes or temporary unresponsiveness in edge cases.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Software smoothness is good, with swipes and widget navigation feeling responsive rather than sluggish.

step counting accuracy
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
4.4

Step counting looked solid in direct testing, with one reviewer finding the watch was off by only around 40 steps in repeated checks.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Step counts are reported to line up closely with comparison devices, suggesting dependable all-day step tracking.

stress tracking
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
4.2

Stress is part of the recovery picture rather than a headline feature, with one reviewer specifically noting that stress levels feed into the watch’s overall readiness guidance.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Stress and recovery-style wellness metrics are available and helpful for day-to-day awareness, even if they are not the platform's most advanced readiness tools.

style and design
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
4.6

The design is widely liked. Reviewers highlight the brighter colors, more expressive styling, and a look that feels more refined than past Forerunners.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

The design is sporty, slim, and easy to wear daily, though it favors practical training aesthetics over luxury materials.

third-party app support
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
4.5

Third-party service support is solid for a sports watch, with repeated mentions of Spotify, Deezer, Amazon Music, and YouTube Music support.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Connect IQ widgets, watch faces, and sync options add useful third-party flexibility, though the ecosystem is still more fitness-focused than app-heavy smartwatch rivals.

touchscreen responsiveness
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
4.5

Touch response is consistently described as responsive and easy to use, especially alongside the physical-button setup.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.4

Touch response is consistently praised as smooth and reliable, and it works well alongside the physical controls.

user interface
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
4.4

The interface is widely praised for feeling slicker, cleaner, more intuitive, and more modern than older Garmin implementations.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.3

The interface is approachable and easy to learn, which helps the Forerunner 165 feel friendlier than more intimidating Garmin options.

value for money
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
2.7

Value for money is the main weakness. Most reviews say the watch is too expensive for what it adds over the 265, though a small number of owners still felt very happy with the purchase.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.3

Value is one of the Forerunner 165's biggest advantages, especially for runners who want Garmin training depth without moving up to much pricier models.

voice assistant quality
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
4.0

Voice features are mostly good for simple commands, timers, and phone-assistant access, though one reviewer reported crashes and awkward behavior with the phone assistant.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
1.5

Voice-assistant support is absent, so this is not a strong pick for users who want voice help from a smartwatch.

watch face quality
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
4.6

Watch-face customization is strong, with reviewers calling the default face clean and noting that layouts and displayed data can be tailored easily.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Watch-face options are plentiful thanks to built-in designs and Connect IQ additions.

water resistance
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
4.4

Water resistance is solid for swimming use. Reviews mention pool use, open-water suitability, and repeated use in lakes or the ocean without issue.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Water resistance is solid for rain, sweat, and swimming, making it suitable for everyday fitness use around water.

wellness insights
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
4.6

Wellness insights are a standout. Body Battery, Sleep Score, energy level, and broader readiness-style insights were repeatedly cited as genuinely useful.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.4

Morning Report, Body Battery, HRV, and related insights are widely seen as genuinely useful for understanding recovery, sleep, and daily readiness.

Wi-Fi connectivity
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
No score yet
Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
3.3

Wi-Fi helps with music downloads and syncing on supported models, but at least one reviewer found the setup and troubleshooting process frustrating.

workout tracking variety
Product 1: Garmin Forerunner 570
4.8

Workout coverage is excellent. Reviewers repeatedly mention broad activity support, triathlon and multisport tools, and dozens of sport modes.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
3.9

Workout coverage is broad for common sports like running, cycling, swimming, hiking, and gym work, but missing triathlon and some niche activities limits the ceiling.