Average score
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
3.7
Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
3.9
activity auto-detection
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
3.5

One review says the watch can log bouts of elevated activity automatically, but those passive records are less detailed than starting a dedicated workout mode.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
No score yet
app ecosystem
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
3.0

Reviews describe Connect IQ as a real app ecosystem with apps, watch faces, widgets, and data fields, but they also note it is far behind Apple and Google in breadth and polish.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Garmin's broader software ecosystem is a positive, with Connect and Connect IQ giving the watch more depth than a barebones entry-level tracker.

band quality
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
3.5

Band feedback is mixed: one reviewer found the silicone strap notably more comfortable than rival bands, while another found it stiff and uncomfortable during exercise.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

The included band gets positive remarks for its slim silicone construction and everyday wearability.

battery life
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
4.6

Battery life is a standout. Multiple reviews report roughly nine to eleven days of regular use, with the caveat that always-on display use cuts endurance sharply.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
3.9

Battery life is good for an AMOLED running watch and often lands near Garmin's claims, but it is not class-leading once heavy GPS use or always-on display enters the picture.

blood oxygen tracking
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
3.9

Pulse Ox support is flexible, with on-demand and broader tracking options, but one review found the readings slightly low versus Apple Watch measurements.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
3.7

Pulse-ox support is present and useful for extra health data, but it is treated more as a nice add-on than a core reason to buy the watch.

Bluetooth connectivity
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
4.4

Bluetooth support is strong, with wireless headphone pairing plus ANT+ and Bluetooth Smart support for sensors and accessories.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.3

Bluetooth support is solid for headphones and sensor sharing, with reviewers reporting stable connections in normal use.

brightness
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
4.0

Brightness gets mostly positive remarks, especially at night, though outdoor readability is not perfect in every review and can require a squint in bright sun.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

Screen brightness is strong enough to make the display look lively and readable instead of dim or washed out.

build quality
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
3.5

Build quality is solid but not luxurious. Reviewers like the aluminum bezel and overall look, while also noting the watch feels less premium than pricier Garmins.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

Build quality is strong for the price, with reviewers calling Garmin's overall construction dependable.

button controls
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
3.5

The two-button setup works, and one review says the buttons are easy to use even with gloves, but another found the control scheme a bit clunky at first.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.4

The five-button layout is a real advantage for sweaty workouts and gloves, giving the watch dependable control beyond touch alone.

call handling
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
1.1

Calling is a clear weakness. Reviews explicitly say the Venu Sq 2 lacks the speaker and microphone features needed for proper wrist-based calls.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
1.5

Call features are limited because the watch lacks a microphone and speaker for taking calls directly from the wrist.

calorie tracking usefulness
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
3.9

Calories and intensity metrics cover the basics well, and Garmin’s activity modes apply sport-specific calorie calculations, though reviewers do not present this as a standout differentiator.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
No score yet
charging convenience
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
3.3

Charging convenience is mixed: one review says the cable connects securely, while another criticizes the proprietary charger design.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
2.5

Charging is less convenient than USB-C-on-watch designs because Garmin still relies on its proprietary cable.

charging speed
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
4.0

One review says the watch can recharge to full in under an hour, suggesting solid charging speed.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Charging speed is a plus, with reviewers commonly seeing a full charge in about an hour.

coaching features
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
4.5

Garmin Coach and training plans are a real strength. Reviews say plans adapt over time and downloadable guidance adds meaningful coaching value.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

Coaching is a major strength, with Garmin Coach, adaptive plans, and suggested workouts giving newer runners useful structure without much friction.

comfort
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
3.8

Comfort is generally good thanks to the low weight and slim case, especially for sleep wear, but the stock silicone strap does not suit everyone.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

Comfort is a standout, with many reviewers saying the watch feels light, unobtrusive, and easy to wear all day and overnight.

companion app quality
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
3.1

The Garmin Connect app is powerful but divisive. Some reviews praise the depth and presentation, while others say settings and metrics are buried and newcomer-unfriendly.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Garmin Connect is generally useful and improving, though some reviewers still find it a bit dense compared with simpler platforms.

contactless payments
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
4.3

Garmin Pay works well when supported by the user’s bank, with reviewers describing it as convenient and broadly usable for contactless payments.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Garmin Pay is a convenient inclusion and works well when supported by the user's bank, adding real day-to-day usefulness during runs and errands.

cross-platform compatibility
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
4.5

Cross-platform support is a strong point, with reviewers explicitly noting compatibility with both Android and iOS.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

The watch works across phone platforms, though the notification experience can vary somewhat between iPhone and Android.

customization options
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
4.3

Customization is broad, spanning watch faces, shortcuts, widgets, and app layout, and multiple reviews highlight how adjustable the experience is.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.3

Customization is a strong point, with editable widgets, data screens, watch faces, and settings that let users tune the experience to their preferences.

display quality
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
4.5

Display quality is one of the biggest upgrades, with reviewers praising the AMOLED panel for its color, clarity, and overall premium feel.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

The AMOLED display is a headline feature, repeatedly praised for its sharpness, color, and premium feel at this price.

durability
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
4.1

Durability looks reassuring for the class, with Gorilla Glass protection and 5 ATM water resistance called out as practical strengths.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

Durability looks strong for normal training use, with reviewers calling the watch durable and noting it held up well over time.

ECG functionality
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
1.0

ECG is not available on the Venu Sq 2 according to the reviews, which repeatedly contrast it with Garmin models that do offer or may add ECG.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
1.5

ECG is a clear omission; multiple reviewers note that shoppers who need ECG or EKG features should look at pricier Garmin models.

fit
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
4.4

Fit is widely praised. Reviews cite a broad wrist fit range and describe the watch as snug, lightweight, and easy to wear during activity.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Fit is generally good across typical wrists, though the single-case-size approach will not suit everyone equally.

fitness tracking accuracy
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
4.4

Fitness tracking accuracy is consistently strong, with reviewers calling the watch especially good for run and exercise tracking.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

Core fitness tracking is described as accurate and dependable for day-to-day activity and general training use.

GPS accuracy
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
4.6

GPS accuracy is a major strength. Multiple reviews say results were close to pricier watches and, in one case, within about 20 meters on a measured route.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.3

GPS accuracy is one of the watch's standout strengths, with repeated praise for dependable routes and mileage even without dual-band GPS.

health tracking accuracy
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
4.0

Overall health tracking is considered dependable for core metrics, with reviewers saying daily health data is generally useful and reliable.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

Reviewers describe the watch's sleep and workout insights as highly accurate and useful for everyday training decisions.

heart rate accuracy
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
4.6

Heart-rate accuracy is one of the watch’s best traits, with multiple reviewers finding it close to chest straps or other high-end watches.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.3

Heart-rate performance is generally strong, with several reviewers finding it reliable and in some cases close to chest-strap or higher-end watch readings.

LTE connectivity
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
1.0

The Venu Sq 2 does not include LTE or cellular connectivity, so safety and smart features depend on having a phone nearby.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
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materials quality
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
3.4

Material quality is acceptable rather than premium, combining resin or plastic with aluminum, and several reviews say that tradeoff helps keep weight down.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
3.7

Materials are more functional than luxurious, leaning on polymer and plastic to keep weight low, though the glass still feels durable.

menu navigation
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
3.8

Menu navigation is mostly easy once learned, and some reviews call it quick or improved, though others still find the layout a little clunky.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Menu navigation is flexible because the watch can be fully operated with buttons, touch, or a mix of both.

music controls
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
4.1

Music controls are well implemented for phone playback and onboard playback control, including play, pause, volume, and track management.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
3.3

Music handling is functional but mixed: controls are handy once set up, yet several reviewers find Garmin's music experience clunky or not worth the premium.

onboard music storage
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
3.5

Onboard music is split by model. The base watch lacks local song storage, while the Music Edition adds offline playlists and about 4GB or up to 500 songs.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
3.7

Offline music support is helpful on the Music model and includes major services, but the extra cost and setup friction keep it from being an easy win.

operating system experience
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
3.8

Software and OS-level experience is improved versus the prior model and closer to other recent Garmins, but reviewers still note a few odd gaps.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

The watch OS feels familiar and practical, making common tasks like scrolling through menus and smart features straightforward.

outdoor visibility
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
4.0

Outdoor visibility is good overall, with bright-sun readability praised by some reviews and described as merely adequate by another.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

Outdoor visibility is excellent, with reviewers consistently able to read the screen in sunlight and other bright conditions.

pairing reliability
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
4.4

Pairing and syncing seem reliable in the available evidence, with quick Spotify account linking and fast download syncing to the watch.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

Pairing reliability is strong for Bluetooth headphones in day-to-day use.

recovery insights
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
4.4

Recovery insights are useful and easy to understand, especially through Garmin’s Body Battery, which reviewers describe as genuinely reflective of how they feel.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Recovery Time, Training Effect, and similar post-workout guidance are useful, but the watch still lacks deeper training-readiness and load tools from higher-end models.

reliability
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
4.1

General reliability is strong, with reviews describing the watch as a dependable running or tracking companion that largely works as expected.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

Overall reliability is strong, with reviewers repeatedly calling the watch dependable in daily use and training.

safety features
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
4.0

Safety tools are a meaningful extra, with Assistance, Incident Detection, and LiveTrack coverage noted across reviews.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
3.8

Safety features like emergency contacts, incident alerts, and phone-finding tools add meaningful utility beyond pure fitness tracking.

size options
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
2.5

Size choice is limited. Reviews note there is only one case size, even though that size still fits a wide range of wrists.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
2.5

Only one size is offered, which simplifies the lineup but reduces fit choice for shoppers who prefer smaller or larger cases.

sleep tracking accuracy
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
3.7

Sleep tracking is good but not flawless. Some reviews call sleep timing spot-on or accurate every night, while others saw occasional over-reporting or off nights.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
3.8

Sleep tracking is usually judged accurate enough for nightly timing and general recovery, though one reviewer found the sleep score too generous on a rough night.

smartphone notifications
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
4.3

Smartphone notifications work well, with fast delivery and full on-watch reading highlighted in multiple reviews.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Phone notifications are easy to read and generally reliable, though they are basic smartwatch alerts rather than a full communications experience.

smartwatch features
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
3.3

Smartwatch features are useful but secondary. Reviews mention payments, notifications, calendar, weather, and alarms, yet still say the overall smart feature set trails true smartwatches.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
3.9

Smartwatch extras like notifications, payments, music on the Music model, and safety tools are useful, but the feature set is still secondary to fitness and training.

software smoothness
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
3.4

Software smoothness is acceptable rather than class-leading. Some reviews report little lag, while others notice visible sluggishness when swiping around the UI.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Software smoothness is good, with swipes and widget navigation feeling responsive rather than sluggish.

step counting accuracy
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
4.0

Step counting is generally trusted, with reviewers saying step data is close to other wearables and reliable enough for daily use.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Step counts are reported to line up closely with comparison devices, suggesting dependable all-day step tracking.

stress tracking
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
3.9

Stress tracking is useful, especially when paired with reminders and breathwork, though one review says Garmin presents the data more for interpretation than for deep guidance.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Stress and recovery-style wellness metrics are available and helpful for day-to-day awareness, even if they are not the platform's most advanced readiness tools.

style and design
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
3.6

Design opinion is mixed. Some reviewers like the chic square look, while others think it is ordinary compared with more distinctive watches.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

The design is sporty, slim, and easy to wear daily, though it favors practical training aesthetics over luxury materials.

third-party app support
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
2.5

Third-party app support is limited by smartwatch standards. Reviewers acknowledge useful Connect IQ extras, but repeatedly say selection and polish trail Apple and Google.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Connect IQ widgets, watch faces, and sync options add useful third-party flexibility, though the ecosystem is still more fitness-focused than app-heavy smartwatch rivals.

touchscreen responsiveness
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
3.8

Touch response is mostly good, but not perfectly snappy. Reviews range from bright and responsive to mildly delayed when swiping.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.4

Touch response is consistently praised as smooth and reliable, and it works well alongside the physical controls.

user interface
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
3.7

The user interface is workable and improved from the first-generation Sq, but ease of use still depends on patience with Garmin’s layered menus and learning curve.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.3

The interface is approachable and easy to learn, which helps the Forerunner 165 feel friendlier than more intimidating Garmin options.

value for money
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
4.3

Value for money is one of the Venu Sq 2’s strongest themes. Reviews repeatedly frame it as a strong mid-range buy with lots of Garmin fitness value for the price.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.3

Value is one of the Forerunner 165's biggest advantages, especially for runners who want Garmin training depth without moving up to much pricier models.

voice assistant quality
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
1.0

Voice assistant support is effectively absent here. Reviews say it misses the voice features and assistant access found on the Venu 2 Plus and rival smartwatches.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
1.5

Voice-assistant support is absent, so this is not a strong pick for users who want voice help from a smartwatch.

watch face quality
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
4.1

Watch face support is good, with preinstalled options and many Connect IQ faces, though some reviewers imply the square-face selection could be better.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Watch-face options are plentiful thanks to built-in designs and Connect IQ additions.

water resistance
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
4.2

Water resistance is solid at 5 ATM or 50 meters, making the watch suitable for swimming and general wet conditions.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Water resistance is solid for rain, sweat, and swimming, making it suitable for everyday fitness use around water.

wellness insights
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
3.9

Wellness insights are a genuine Garmin strength, especially Body Battery and related health summaries, though not every reviewer finds Garmin’s interpretation especially actionable.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.4

Morning Report, Body Battery, HRV, and related insights are widely seen as genuinely useful for understanding recovery, sleep, and daily readiness.

Wi-Fi connectivity
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
3.9

Wi-Fi support is present in the evidence, though it is tied mainly to music syncing and battery-management discussions rather than being a headline feature on every model.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
3.3

Wi-Fi helps with music downloads and syncing on supported models, but at least one reviewer found the setup and troubleshooting process frustrating.

workout tracking variety
Product 1: Garmin Venu Sq 2
4.5

Workout coverage is broad, with more than 25 sport modes and a healthy mix of indoor and GPS-based activities.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
3.9

Workout coverage is broad for common sports like running, cycling, swimming, hiking, and gym work, but missing triathlon and some niche activities limits the ceiling.