Average score
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
4.1
Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
3.9
app ecosystem
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
4.2

One review describes Garmin’s wellness ecosystem as comprehensive, especially for turning health data into useful summaries.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Garmin's broader software ecosystem is a positive, with Connect and Connect IQ giving the watch more depth than a barebones entry-level tracker.

band quality
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
4.8

The silicone band is described positively for comfort and feel.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

The included band gets positive remarks for its slim silicone construction and everyday wearability.

battery life
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
4.4

Battery life is widely praised, with most reviews citing around nine days and some testers stretching well beyond a week.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
3.9

Battery life is good for an AMOLED running watch and often lands near Garmin's claims, but it is not class-leading once heavy GPS use or always-on display enters the picture.

blood oxygen tracking
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
4.4

Pulse Ox is present and generally viewed positively, with one reviewer calling the SpO2 readings spot-on.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
3.7

Pulse-ox support is present and useful for extra health data, but it is treated more as a nice add-on than a core reason to buy the watch.

Bluetooth connectivity
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
4.2

Bluetooth support is consistently mentioned for sensor links, heart-rate broadcasting, and phone connectivity.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.3

Bluetooth support is solid for headphones and sensor sharing, with reviewers reporting stable connections in normal use.

brightness
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
2.8

One reviewer said the screen can be hard to read in very bright conditions, even at maximum brightness.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

Screen brightness is strong enough to make the display look lively and readable instead of dim or washed out.

build quality
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
4.2

The move from a plastic case to a metal case is presented as a quality upgrade.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

Build quality is strong for the price, with reviewers calling Garmin's overall construction dependable.

button controls
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
4.8

The new physical buttons are one of the most praised upgrades, especially for workouts and easier navigation.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.4

The five-button layout is a real advantage for sweaty workouts and gloves, giving the watch dependable control beyond touch alone.

call handling
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
No score yet
Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
1.5

Call features are limited because the watch lacks a microphone and speaker for taking calls directly from the wrist.

calorie tracking usefulness
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
3.0

Calorie data is available, but one review said calories burned ran slightly off compared with another watch.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
No score yet
charging convenience
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
4.6

Charging is improved by the standard Garmin cable or simple magnetic setup, and reviewers call the new approach more convenient.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
2.5

Charging is less convenient than USB-C-on-watch designs because Garmin still relies on its proprietary cable.

charging speed
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
4.5

Charging speed is good, with reviewers reporting roughly a full charge in about an hour.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Charging speed is a plus, with reviewers commonly seeing a full charge in about an hour.

coaching features
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
4.7

Garmin Coach and structured workouts are widely praised for offering guided plans and flexible goal-based training.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

Coaching is a major strength, with Garmin Coach, adaptive plans, and suggested workouts giving newer runners useful structure without much friction.

comfort
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
4.9

Comfort is a standout strength, with reviewers repeatedly saying the watch is light, easy to sleep in, and easy to forget on the wrist.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

Comfort is a standout, with many reviewers saying the watch feels light, unobtrusive, and easy to wear all day and overnight.

companion app quality
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
3.5

Garmin Connect gets mixed marks: reviewers praised setup and data usefulness, but one found the app less clear than it could be.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Garmin Connect is generally useful and improving, though some reviewers still find it a bit dense compared with simpler platforms.

contactless payments
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
4.2

Garmin Pay is repeatedly noted as convenient and easy for on-the-go payments.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Garmin Pay is a convenient inclusion and works well when supported by the user's bank, adding real day-to-day usefulness during runs and errands.

cross-platform compatibility
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
4.5

One review explicitly says the watch works with both iOS and Android phones.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

The watch works across phone platforms, though the notification experience can vary somewhat between iPhone and Android.

customization options
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
4.2

Reviews note good customization for watch faces, widgets, data pages, training plans, and notifications, even if flexibility is not unlimited everywhere.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.3

Customization is a strong point, with editable widgets, data screens, watch faces, and settings that let users tune the experience to their preferences.

display quality
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
4.3

The hidden monochrome display earns praise for clarity and contrast, though it remains intentionally simple rather than rich or colorful.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

The AMOLED display is a headline feature, repeatedly praised for its sharpness, color, and premium feel at this price.

durability
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
3.5

Durability impressions are mixed, with Gorilla Glass noted positively but aluminum scratch resistance called out as a weakness.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

Durability looks strong for normal training use, with reviewers calling the watch durable and noting it held up well over time.

ECG functionality
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
1.0

Reviews explicitly note that the Lily 2 Active does not include ECG support.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
1.5

ECG is a clear omission; multiple reviewers note that shoppers who need ECG or EKG features should look at pricier Garmin models.

fit
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
4.8

The compact size and lightweight build earn strong praise for smaller wrists and all-day wear.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Fit is generally good across typical wrists, though the single-case-size approach will not suit everyone equally.

fitness tracking accuracy
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
4.7

General fitness tracking is reviewed very positively, with performance described as accurate and comparable to pricier Garmin models.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

Core fitness tracking is described as accurate and dependable for day-to-day activity and general training use.

GPS accuracy
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
4.7

GPS is a standout strength, with multiple reviews calling it accurate, fast to connect, and very close to higher-end Garmin devices.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.3

GPS accuracy is one of the watch's standout strengths, with repeated praise for dependable routes and mileage even without dual-band GPS.

health tracking accuracy
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
No score yet
Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

Reviewers describe the watch's sleep and workout insights as highly accurate and useful for everyday training decisions.

heart rate accuracy
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
4.4

Multiple reviews say heart-rate tracking was very solid or spot-on, with only minor lag during quick changes in effort.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.3

Heart-rate performance is generally strong, with several reviewers finding it reliable and in some cases close to chest-strap or higher-end watch readings.

materials quality
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
3.6

Materials get mixed feedback: Gorilla Glass and aluminum are appreciated, but one reviewer still viewed the aluminum as easier to scratch than pricier materials.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
3.7

Materials are more functional than luxurious, leaning on polymer and plastic to keep weight low, though the glass still feels durable.

menu navigation
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
4.2

Menus and widget navigation are generally viewed as straightforward, with swipes and buttons making the watch easier to move around.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Menu navigation is flexible because the watch can be fully operated with buttons, touch, or a mix of both.

music controls
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
4.0

Phone-based music controls work well for basic playback tasks like volume and track skipping.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
3.3

Music handling is functional but mixed: controls are handy once set up, yet several reviewers find Garmin's music experience clunky or not worth the premium.

onboard music storage
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
1.0

Multiple reviews explicitly say there is no onboard music storage, so you still need your phone for music.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
3.7

Offline music support is helpful on the Music model and includes major services, but the extra cost and setup friction keep it from being an easy win.

operating system experience
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
No score yet
Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

The watch OS feels familiar and practical, making common tasks like scrolling through menus and smart features straightforward.

outdoor visibility
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
4.8

One review specifically said the screen stayed readable outdoors, even in direct sunlight.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

Outdoor visibility is excellent, with reviewers consistently able to read the screen in sunlight and other bright conditions.

pairing reliability
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
4.4

Pairing is described as easy and dependable for phones and supported external sensors.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

Pairing reliability is strong for Bluetooth headphones in day-to-day use.

recovery insights
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
4.3

HRV, Body Battery, Training Readiness, and related guidance give useful signals about recovery and when to push or rest.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Recovery Time, Training Effect, and similar post-workout guidance are useful, but the watch still lacks deeper training-readiness and load tools from higher-end models.

reliability
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
4.8

One reviewer explicitly described the watch as very reliable during GPS use.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.5

Overall reliability is strong, with reviewers repeatedly calling the watch dependable in daily use and training.

safety features
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
4.6

Incident detection, fall alerts, and emergency contact sharing are repeatedly mentioned as reassuring safety features.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
3.8

Safety features like emergency contacts, incident alerts, and phone-finding tools add meaningful utility beyond pure fitness tracking.

size options
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
No score yet
Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
2.5

Only one size is offered, which simplifies the lineup but reduces fit choice for shoppers who prefer smaller or larger cases.

sleep tracking accuracy
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
4.5

Reviewers consistently said the watch nailed sleep and wake timing and caught wake-ups well, though one review still wanted deeper sleep-stage detail.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
3.8

Sleep tracking is usually judged accurate enough for nightly timing and general recovery, though one reviewer found the sleep score too generous on a rough night.

smartphone notifications
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
4.4

The watch reliably mirrors smartphone notifications, with support for calls, texts, and app alerts.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Phone notifications are easy to read and generally reliable, though they are basic smartwatch alerts rather than a full communications experience.

smartwatch features
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
4.2

Core smartwatch basics are here, including notifications, music control, and Garmin Pay, but the feature set stays focused rather than expansive.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
3.9

Smartwatch extras like notifications, payments, music on the Music model, and safety tools are useful, but the feature set is still secondary to fitness and training.

software smoothness
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
4.5

One review says day-to-day swiping and opening apps feels smooth.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Software smoothness is good, with swipes and widget navigation feeling responsive rather than sluggish.

step counting accuracy
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
4.2

One reviewer found step counts close in casual testing, though arm-free walking can still miss steps.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Step counts are reported to line up closely with comparison devices, suggesting dependable all-day step tracking.

stress tracking
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
4.2

Stress tracking is included across reviews and is described as useful for understanding energy and daily load.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Stress and recovery-style wellness metrics are available and helpful for day-to-day awareness, even if they are not the platform's most advanced readiness tools.

style and design
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
4.8

Style is one of the biggest selling points, with reviewers consistently praising the fashionable, minimalist look.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

The design is sporty, slim, and easy to wear daily, though it favors practical training aesthetics over luxury materials.

third-party app support
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
4.2

Reviews confirm syncing and compatibility with third-party services such as Strava, TrainingPeaks, and similar fitness platforms.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Connect IQ widgets, watch faces, and sync options add useful third-party flexibility, though the ecosystem is still more fitness-focused than app-heavy smartwatch rivals.

touchscreen responsiveness
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
2.2

Touch input is the clearest weakness in the reviews, with repeated complaints about touches not registering cleanly.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.4

Touch response is consistently praised as smooth and reliable, and it works well alongside the physical controls.

user interface
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
4.2

One reviewer describes the interface as very simple to swipe through and interact with.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.3

The interface is approachable and easy to learn, which helps the Forerunner 165 feel friendlier than more intimidating Garmin options.

value for money
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
3.7

Value is mixed but mostly positive: several reviews say the added GPS and upgrades justify the price, while others think rivals offer more for similar money.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.3

Value is one of the Forerunner 165's biggest advantages, especially for runners who want Garmin training depth without moving up to much pricier models.

voice assistant quality
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
No score yet
Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
1.5

Voice-assistant support is absent, so this is not a strong pick for users who want voice help from a smartwatch.

watch face quality
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
3.3

Watch face options get mixed feedback: the designs suit the look of the watch, but several reviewers wanted more variety or more color.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Watch-face options are plentiful thanks to built-in designs and Connect IQ additions.

water resistance
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
4.5

One review states the watch is water resistant to 5 ATM.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.0

Water resistance is solid for rain, sweat, and swimming, making it suitable for everyday fitness use around water.

wellness insights
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
4.5

Body Battery, sleep scores, hormone guidance, and other wellness summaries are a major strength and frequently described as useful.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
4.4

Morning Report, Body Battery, HRV, and related insights are widely seen as genuinely useful for understanding recovery, sleep, and daily readiness.

Wi-Fi connectivity
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
No score yet
Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
3.3

Wi-Fi helps with music downloads and syncing on supported models, but at least one reviewer found the setup and troubleshooting process frustrating.

workout tracking variety
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2 Active
4.6

Reviews repeatedly highlight the wide range of sport profiles and workout modes, with the Active adding many more than earlier Lily models.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 165
3.9

Workout coverage is broad for common sports like running, cycling, swimming, hiking, and gym work, but missing triathlon and some niche activities limits the ceiling.