Average score
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
3.8
Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
4.0
activity auto-detection
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
4.5

Auto-detection reliably logs walks and runs, and reviewers said it kicked in well for walks, though auto-logged sessions carry less detail than manually started workouts.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
2.0

Auto-detection is explicitly criticized in testing, with reviewers saying workouts usually need to be started manually to access the watch’s richer tracking features.

app ecosystem
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
4.2

Garmin Connect works across Android, iOS, and desktop, giving users a broad data view, though the overall ecosystem still depends heavily on the companion app experience.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
4.0

The app ecosystem is solid rather than class-leading: reviewers cite Connect IQ support and a healthy app catalog, but not the broader polish or reach of Apple or Wear OS ecosystems.

band quality
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
4.8

The new standard 14mm quick-release bands are a major upgrade, making straps easier to swap and more flexible than the old proprietary setup.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
4.4

Band quality is generally good, with flexible silicone straps and solid sweat performance, though silicone can stay damp and irritate skin if not dried after workouts.

battery life
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
3.8

Battery life usually lands around four to five days, though heavier use and brighter settings can pull it closer to three days.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
4.4

Battery life is a major strength. Reviewers report multi-day to multi-week endurance depending on usage, with always-on display and GPS workouts reducing runtime but still leaving it ahead of many rivals.

blood oxygen tracking
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
3.2

Pulse Ox and SpO2 tracking are available, but confidence in accuracy is mixed, with some reviewers warning the readings can be off.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
4.1

The watch supports blood oxygen tracking and related wellness sensors, but reviewers discuss it more as part of the feature set than as a standout accuracy differentiator.

Bluetooth connectivity
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
2.8

Phone pairing is easy, but Bluetooth support is limited for accessories such as headphones or gym equipment.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
4.4

Bluetooth connectivity is dependable for phone pairing and headphone playback, with no major complaints in the selected reviews.

brightness
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
2.7

The display is readable, but reviewers repeatedly wanted more brightness.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
4.7

Brightness is repeatedly praised. Reviewers call the AMOLED screen bright, vivid, and easy to read in varied lighting.

build quality
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
4.6

The aluminum build is consistently described as a meaningful upgrade that feels more premium than the previous plastic case.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
4.5

Build quality feels premium overall, helped by the metal or titanium bezel and polished finish, even if outright ruggedness is not the headline strength.

button controls
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
2.3

The lack of real side buttons and reliance on the pseudo-button setup make controls more awkward than on sportier Garmin watches.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
4.7

Button controls are a clear positive. Multiple reviews praise the tactile hardware buttons and say they remain easy to use during workouts and with gloves.

call handling
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
3.0

Call and text actions exist, especially on Android, but iPhone limits and light interactivity keep call handling basic.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
2.7

Call handling is inconsistent across reviews. One source says calls can be answered via a paired phone, while others explicitly note missing call functionality compared with Garmin’s more smartwatch-focused models.

calorie tracking usefulness
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
2.8

Calorie data is included, but one reviewer found burned-calorie estimates slightly off.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
3.1

Calorie tracking is only modestly useful. Calories are visible in daily metrics, but one review says users wanting stronger calorie and intake support should look elsewhere.

charging convenience
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
3.3

The clip-style proprietary charger is simple to use, but it is still a special cable users have to remember.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
2.5

Charging convenience is a weak point because Garmin still uses a proprietary connector, and reviewers call the port connection delicate while also noting the lack of wireless charging.

charging speed
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
3.0

Charging is acceptable but not fast; around an hour gets a substantial refill, yet multiple reviewers said it feels slow versus rivals.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
4.7

Charging speed is good, with reviewers citing roughly an hour to reach high percentages and quick top-ups that provide meaningful battery in minutes.

coaching features
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
3.8

Coaching is fairly light, with useful alerts and nudges, but it stops well short of richer training guidance.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
4.5

Coaching features are strong, with suggested workouts, race prediction, and readiness-style guidance giving the watch a helpful training-assistant feel.

comfort
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
4.9

Comfort is one of the Lily 2’s biggest strengths, with reviewers repeatedly saying it is easy to wear all day and through the night.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
4.5

Comfort is a strength for most users thanks to the light, slim build and wearable design, though the large case can still be noticeable for some sleepers or smaller wrists.

companion app quality
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
3.6

Garmin Connect is data-rich, but several reviewers found parts of it clunky or harder to navigate than they wanted.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
3.9

Companion app quality is mixed. Garmin Connect is praised for depth and data access, but several reviewers also call it confusing or poorly organized in places.

contactless payments
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
3.8

Garmin Pay is useful on Classic models when a bank is supported, but bank support limitations reduce its value for some buyers.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
3.7

Contactless payments are available through Garmin Pay, but real-world usefulness depends heavily on bank support, which several reviewers say is still uneven.

cross-platform compatibility
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
4.3

The Lily 2 works with both Android and iPhone, though feature parity is better on Android.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
4.5

Cross-platform compatibility is strong, with consistent support for both Android and iPhone across reviews.

customization options
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
4.2

Band swapping and some settings customization are strong, but watch-face and visual customization stay modest.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
4.7

Customization options are extensive, including watch faces, widgets, data pages, and other configurable on-watch and in-app elements.

display quality
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
3.4

The grayscale display is clear enough and sometimes high-contrast, but many reviewers still found it basic compared with brighter AMOLED watches.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
4.8

Display quality is one of the headline wins. The AMOLED panel is widely described as sharp, vibrant, and transformative compared with older MIP models.

durability
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
4.4

The shift to aluminum was repeatedly framed as helping durability as well as appearance.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
3.5

Durability is mixed. Some reviewers appreciate the materials and scratch resistance expectations, but several also report real scratches and visible wear sooner than expected.

ECG functionality
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
1.0

Reviews explicitly note that ECG is not available on the Lily 2.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
1.5

ECG functionality is absent. Multiple reviews explicitly state that the Forerunner 965 does not include ECG hardware or support.

fit
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
4.8

The small, light case fits especially well on smaller wrists and is comfortable enough for overnight wear.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
3.5

Fit is acceptable for many wrists but not ideal for everyone. Several reviews warn that the 47mm case can feel large on smaller wrists.

fitness tracking accuracy
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
4.7

For casual exercise, reviewers consistently describe activity tracking as accurate.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
4.9

Fitness tracking accuracy is a standout strength, with reviewers praising the consistency of workout metrics and the overall trustworthiness of exercise data.

GPS accuracy
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
3.7

Connected GPS is generally accurate when the phone is with you, but there is no onboard GPS and performance remains phone-dependent.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
4.9

GPS accuracy is one of the watch’s clearest strengths, repeatedly described as spot-on, industry-leading, or nearly dead accurate in testing.

health tracking accuracy
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
4.3

Core health metrics are generally described as reliable, even if specialized tracking is not top tier across the board.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
4.1

Health tracking accuracy is good overall but not flawless. Reviewers praise the depth and usefulness of health data, while some flag sleep-related inconsistency that affects broader health confidence.

heart rate accuracy
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
4.6

Heart-rate performance is a standout, staying close to reference devices in many workouts with only occasional misses.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
4.6

Heart rate accuracy is strong for a wrist-based sensor, with several reviewers calling it excellent or near chest-strap performance, though interval lag can still appear.

LTE connectivity
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
No score yet
Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
1.5

LTE connectivity is absent. Reviews explicitly note that the watch lacks LTE or mobile internet support.

materials quality
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
4.6

Materials earn mostly positive notes thanks to aluminum and premium finishing, though one review still wanted more upscale material choices.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
4.4

Materials quality is solid, with repeated mentions of titanium, Gorilla Glass, and generally premium-feeling hardware choices.

menu navigation
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
3.9

Navigation is usable and sometimes intuitive, but reactions are mixed because some interactions feel less direct than on button-based Garmin watches.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
4.3

Menu navigation is generally good once learned, with reviewers highlighting customizable widgets and easy menu flow, though Garmin’s depth can still feel dense at first.

music controls
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
3.8

The watch can control music on a paired phone, covering basic playback control needs.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
4.2

Music controls are well covered for a sports watch, with reviewers noting onboard player controls and convenient workout use.

onboard music storage
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
1.0

There is no onboard music storage on the Lily 2.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
4.5

Onboard music storage is a strength thanks to offline music support and ample storage for playlists, maps, and media.

operating system experience
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
2.6

Garmin’s proprietary software handles core tasks well enough, but the lack of native Google or Apple app support limits flexibility.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
3.9

The operating system experience is capable but not always elegant. Reviewers appreciate the depth and button-first control options, yet some still describe Garmin’s interface conventions as archaic or complex.

outdoor visibility
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
4.9

Outdoor readability is a clear strength, with reviewers praising visibility even in direct sun.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
4.6

Outdoor visibility is a clear positive. Reviewers say the AMOLED screen remains readable outdoors and in direct sun, even if some still prefer MIP’s look.

pairing reliability
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
4.6

Phone pairing and connected-GPS handoff were described as dependable and noticeably better than on the original Lily.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
4.5

Pairing reliability is strong, with quick phone pairing and dependable syncing or headphone use in the selected reviews.

recovery insights
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
3.6

Body Battery offers useful readiness context, but richer recovery metrics such as formal recovery time are missing.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
4.8

Recovery insights are a major strength, especially through Training Readiness, recovery time, and related load metrics that help guide training decisions.

reliability
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
4.2

Overall day-to-day reliability is good for the basics, with accurate tracking and solid routine behavior outweighing some UI and display quirks.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
4.6

Reliability is broadly strong. Reviewers describe stable tracking, dependable uploads, and few serious failures in day-to-day use.

safety features
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
4.7

Incident detection, LiveTrack, and emergency-contact alerts are strong additions and widely praised.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
4.4

Safety features are meaningful, with reviewers highlighting LiveTrack and fall detection as useful extras for training and outdoor use.

size options
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
No score yet
Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
2.8

Size options are limited because the Forerunner 965 is effectively a one-size model, which can be restrictive for smaller-wrist users.

sleep tracking accuracy
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
3.6

Sleep tracking is useful and can be accurate, but several reviews found sleep timing or stage estimates inconsistent.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
3.7

Sleep tracking accuracy is one of the most mixed areas. Some reviewers call it excellent or improved versus older Garmins, while others say the results can feel off or inconsistent.

smartphone notifications
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
3.5

Notifications arrive reliably, but customization and interaction are limited, especially on iPhone.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
3.7

Smartphone notifications work well enough for viewing alerts, but several reviews point out limitations around interaction and reply behavior, especially on iPhone.

smartwatch features
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
3.3

Smartwatch tools cover the basics, yet most reviews describe the overall feature set as intentionally light.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
4.2

Smartwatch features are good for a training watch, including notifications, music, and payments, but they still trail more full-fledged smartwatches in polish and breadth.

software smoothness
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
2.9

Software responsiveness is serviceable rather than polished, with reviewers mentioning laggier gestures and less fluid behavior than leading smartwatches.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
4.7

Software smoothness is a strong point, with reviewers describing the interface as fluid and largely free of lag or stutter.

step counting accuracy
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
4.5

Basic daily metrics such as steps are generally described as accurate and dependable.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
4.5

Step counting accuracy is strong in the selected evidence, including one low-error test result and praise for the visible real-time counter.

stress tracking
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
4.7

Stress tracking is consistently praised and often singled out as one of the best wellness features.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
4.3

Stress tracking is well integrated into Garmin’s broader readiness and wellness stack, with reviewers frequently citing it as one of the useful day-to-day metrics.

style and design
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
4.9

Style is a major selling point, with many reviews calling the Lily 2 elegant, subtle, and more jewelry-like than a typical smartwatch.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
4.6

Style and design are widely praised, with the AMOLED display, slimmer body, and premium bezel helping the 965 look more modern and upscale than earlier Forerunners.

third-party app support
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
3.8

Third-party support is mixed: workouts can sync to some external services, but there is no broad native app ecosystem on the watch itself.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
4.4

Third-party app support is good, with Connect IQ apps plus integrations like Strava and TrainingPeaks adding flexibility for training and data workflows.

touchscreen responsiveness
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
2.8

The touchscreen works, but slow responses and missed touches are among the most common complaints.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
4.4

Touchscreen responsiveness is generally praised, with reviewers saying touch makes navigation easy and smooth when they choose to use it.

user interface
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
3.5

The interface is understandable after some use, yet several reviewers still found it less natural than Garmin devices with real buttons.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
4.6

The user interface is improved and easier on the eyes than earlier Forerunners, with smoother visuals and a more modern presentation.

value for money
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
3.5

Value depends heavily on priorities; reviewers felt the design and wellness focus can justify the price, but feature shoppers may find stronger specs elsewhere.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
3.8

Value for money is mixed. Several reviewers think the feature set can justify the price, but others say many buyers would be better served by cheaper Garmin alternatives.

voice assistant quality
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
No score yet
Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
1.5

Voice assistant functionality is absent. Reviews explicitly note there is no voice assistant, microphone-based response system, or similar wrist voice feature.

watch face quality
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
2.8

Watch faces are functional but limited, with some reviewers wanting more color or variety.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
4.1

Watch face quality is good overall, especially visually on the AMOLED display, but some reviewers also note fewer face options than previous Garmin experiences.

water resistance
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
4.5

The 5ATM rating makes the Lily 2 fine for pool use, showering, and other everyday wet conditions.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
4.7

Water resistance is strong, with repeated confirmation of 5ATM or 50-meter suitability for swimming and everyday water exposure.

wellness insights
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
4.6

Body Battery, sleep score, and related daily insights are among the most appreciated parts of the experience.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
4.6

Wellness insights are a major selling point, with Body Battery, sleep scores, readiness-style guidance, and rest cues making daily health data more actionable.

Wi-Fi connectivity
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
No score yet
Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
4.0

Wi-Fi connectivity is useful for tasks like map or music downloads, though it is not framed as especially fast or notable compared with other core features.

workout tracking variety
Product 1: Garmin Lily 2
4.2

The 18 profiles cover many common activities, but omissions such as indoor cycling or some sports keep variety from feeling complete.

Product 2: Garmin Forerunner 965
4.7

Workout tracking variety is excellent, with broad multisport coverage, triathlon support, and many workout modes ranging from yoga to golf and hiking.